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[skidoo02048]

wow,thats all i have to say. the 800r has raw power that is there 24/7. it seems the 800e is a hit or miss sled, 3 different motors,i guess the 2011 after 3k miles you can get a piston check up????? i thought about buying the 800e on my XRS but after about 5 minutes it was clear i'll take the 600. it makes me mad because a riding buddy has 7k on his 800e and all good but she's blowing black smoke now??? whats doo's deal? these are 10k sleds!!! was the last sweet 800 a tripple???....

[03renegademe]

I have 2700 miles on my 2012bcx and love it . this thing has great pull to 90mph , it is geared low so the top end is not great but it sure gets there in a hurry. mileage and oil consumtion was very good , not as good as my 600 etec but this has way more power ,just my 2 cents

[Brent Hoag]

I have clutched many 800's and the best ones I have ever seen were the first ones out with plain out simple carbs on them. They were the only ones that would even think about giveng the old 1000 sdi's (clutched) a run for it but even then the 1000's would role past the 800r after 90 or so. Take it for what is worth 05 mach z 07 1000 gade 08 800r and the 12 e tec in that order from fastest to slowest I have them all in my shop year after year and get the same results every year the newer they get the slower they get. I have nothing to gain by saying this just telling it the way it is. I also have a 1200 tnt the same issues to much computerized B/S that are meant to make the engine live not go fast.

Brent Hoag

[ROBGROTTO]

What altitude was the Shout Out at??

Remember you loose 3% h.p. per 1,000 feet of elevation for a non turbo engine....
That is a law of phyisics and there is no way around it.

I am sea level and its not even close to 163.9 hp . I had an 07 Mach Z X 1000 SDI it had 165-170 and it ripped.this 2012 MXZ X 800 etec is supposed to be the fastest baddest "edit for bad language" thing out there but its a turd ! A COMPLETE LET DOWN. WHAT A JOKE ! $12,000 SCAM !

[jeffgrah]

I sure hope my third ETEC is good. Perhaps having owned two gives me a different perspective since I just ordered my third so that being said I must be nuts for buying these things based on this thread?

[xgl914]

Yeah, let's get a lawsuit going!

[Brent Hoag]

Exactly robgrotto
they actually made the power they said in fact I put the mid altitude kit in the 05 1000 and it was a little over 180 and runs great. Hopefully Doo gets it fixed it is a simple solution all they need to do is reflash the whole system and let this motor run like it should.

[skidoo02048]

Yeah, let's get a lawsuit going!

good luck with that 1!

[DBer]

They must be taming the 163 hp beast electronically to minimize warranty claims!!! They are getting tired of replacing piston pins and crankshafts. It is probably because of you northern Maine riders, you know!!

[2012 Gade]

Barometric Pressure / Air Density is huge and a factor we always looked/ watched while we were drag racing cars ...

[ncapster]

Man, I just can't afford to buy the latest, greatest, just to get beat by an 800r? It hurts!

As the O.P. stated, "what a disappointment!" He's right! For sure.....

I used to have your exact same sled, a 09 XP 800R Adrenaline. The only difference was mine was black. Don't get me wrong, I really liked that sled and it will probably go down as one of the best I've owned. I was definitely sad to see it go. All that being said my 2012 is a nice improvement. The big difference is the new R-Motion rear susp. It rides night & day plusher over the stutter bumps compared to the SC-5. It makes shelled out sections of trail that haven't seen a groomer all year somewhat tolerable and on everything else you hardly feel a thing. Other nice little improvements include the taller / more comfortable seat, lighter steering effort, hooked bars, and handwarmers that actually work. As for the E-Tec portion the improved mileage / range is nice as is the lighter throttle effort. For me it about doubled my range. I had my needles shimmed on my 09 so I only got about 11 - 12 mpg. With my E-Tec on my last ride I got 18 mpg and that was part in and part out of break-in mode. So I expect to be in the 19-20 range next year for darn near a 200 mile range. On my 09 I used to start getting nervous when the tripmeter approached the century mark. In other words, worrying about gas stops is now a thing of the past. The other stuff like easier starts and the self summerization feature are just icing on the cake.

I sure hope my third ETEC is good. Perhaps having owned two gives me a different perspective since I just ordered my third so that being said I must be nuts for buying these things based on this thread?

Don't worry, I was happy with mine to. Coming off a P-Tek 800R the E-Tec 800R acutally feels a little stronger in the upper mid-range (60-70) mph range. The only guys that seem to be dissapointed are the guys that spend all day on the lake drag racing back-n-forth. They're the same type of guys that like to " tinker " and mess with the clutching etc... And they may be at least partially responsible for their own problems. As for me, I very rarely operate my sleds at WOT / with the the valves fully opened so it hasn't been a problem for me. It's like once in a blue moon if I'm doing a radar run or if I get a wild hair or something. As for the low end and mid-range the E-Tec seems to pull just as hard if not harder than the P-Tek 800R. All that thick 800R torque / pull is still alive and well in the E-Tec. As for the top end I don't really care as much, I spend maybe 1% of my time there. Besides my 09 P-Tek only did 106 mph on the GPS so the XPs have never really been much of a top end sled anyways. The Rev 800 HOs were faster up top...

[Empire Sport Riders]

I am just happy I did not blow mine up this year......It is nice to go a season with the same motor. Of course, I only rode 1600 miles, but still can't complain except getting beat by my friends Pro Cross 800.

[Boness]

Love my 2011 and more power than my 08 800r when I got it set up right.

[koke1]

Have a 2011 gade etec and i even beat the 800r shorties with it...the top end on my etec is where the biggest differences are. I have posted on here about bringing in my gade for the recall work. I beleive they put new pistons in because of some of the locating pins were failing. After i got it back it seems to be a bit slower on top end. I used to see over 120 on the speedo now i see 115 on a good day. im thinking they down tuned it or something. I hear the 2011s are faster. I here alot of bad stuff on here about the 800etec my mine has always been really strong and never gets beat by an 800r(except after i brought it in!) I cant say the same about my 600etec its a great running sled but my old 03 i have sitting around kills it.

[JT Metal]

There are members on the forum that have convinced themselves that the 8etec is the baddest. Also the marketing hype drew you in deeper! I don't blame you guys!

I'm just not convinced! I actually want one, just can't take the chance of possibly taking a step backwards. When my 8r runs this sweet!

I'm also sorry to the 8etec riders that have stepped up, and have been disappointed.......Joe........it is what it is.