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[Fastrack]

Hi,

I noticed when cleaning up my sled after the "winter" that the weld in the centre of the housing is completely busted. It rotates slightly when the rope is pulled.

I've read a ton of topics about the EZ Start mod etc, Mach D was selling these at one point... Are any parts usable from the original recoil if I go to a larger diameter one?

Should I dealer order a recoil ? What parts do I need for larger diameter (ie what model year parts fiche should I be looking at) Or try ebay, kijiji etc.. ?

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Ben

[chris447]

i have one that looks just like that off a 02 mach z i can sell you

[Fastrack]

i have one that looks just like that off a 02 mach z i can sell you

Is the '02 larger diameter? Will it bolt up.. ?

Ben

[chris447]

im not sure i know it has more holes for the bolts but i can take a few measurements if you want just pm me

[v10004stroke]

It doesn't look like it would be difficult to reweld.

[SuperJfunk]

It doesn't look like it would be difficult to reweld.

x2 Had the exact same thing happen to my 97 583, I cleaned it up and re-welded it in 04, buddy owns the sled now with no problems.

[v10004stroke]

With a grinder a mig welder you could reweld that. You wouldn't even have to remove it from the motor.

[Fastrack]

I'm going to attempt to weld it. I was planning to remove it anyway as the rope doesn't return fully sometimes so it probably needs some lube.

Ben

[Valonmxz]

I'm going to attempt to weld it. I was planning to remove it anyway as the rope doesn't return fully sometimes so it probably needs some lube.

Ben

Hey Ben
weld it up on the outside only
Then put a 3/4" washer over the center and weld that on the id and od of the washer
You may have to center the shaft again
I used a lathe to just chuck the shaft and the turned manually
pry where you have to to straighten it out
I did this to my recoil a few years ago, works mint
I put a new pawl kit in it this year OEM parts

Don't use too much lube, it will give you trouble when its cold

good luck

[Fastrack]

Hey Ben
weld it up on the outside only
Then put a 3/4" washer over the center and weld that on the id and od of the washer
You may have to center the shaft again
I used a lathe to just chuck the shaft and the turned manually
pry where you have to to straighten it out
I did this to my recoil a few years ago, works mint
I put a new pawl kit in it this year OEM parts

Don't use too much lube, it will give you trouble when its cold

good luck

I'm assuming the washer is to add strength? As for the grease would snowmobile synthetic grease or white lithium grease be better? I don't think I'll have any issues with it being in the centre as right now the weld is just cracked.

Ben

[Valonmxz]

I'm assuming the washer is to add strength? As for the grease would snowmobile synthetic grease or white lithium grease be better? I don't think I'll have any issues with it being in the centre as right now the weld is just cracked.

Ben

I didn't mean centered as being in the middle but as perpendicular
what might happen is the rope sheave will rub on one side

you got me now?

[Fastrack]

I didn't mean centered as being in the middle but as perpendicular
what might happen is the rope sheave will rub on one side

you got me now?

Ah ok.. got it!

Ben

[SuperJfunk]

I'm assuming the washer is to add strength? As for the grease would snowmobile synthetic grease or white lithium grease be better? I don't think I'll have any issues with it being in the centre as right now the weld is just cracked.

Ben

No grease, it'll eventually gum up when it's cold. I use a spray graphite dry lube and have had good results. x2 on the welding from the outside only. Mine was easy to center also, there was only one way it would align, I chamfered the edges of the hole a little to get a good root weld.

[Fastrack]

So I finally got the recoil pulled off.. So simpppppppple! Anyway.... I've taken it apart and the spring is lubed with some super sticky grease/belt dust so no wonder it's not working properly!
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I want to remove the spring to clean it up and before I do the welding. Any tips on taking the spring out? And putting it back in? I was just going to pry it out but figured I should post first! The '97 or '98 shop manuals do not even mention spring removal.

Ben

[SuperJfunk]

So I finally got the recoil pulled off.. So simpppppppple! Anyway.... I've taken it apart and the spring is lubed with some super sticky grease/belt dust so no wonder it's not working properly!
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I want to remove the spring to clean it up and before I do the welding. Any tips on taking the spring out? And putting it back in? I was just going to pry it out but figured I should post first! The '97 or '98 shop manuals do not even mention spring removal.

Ben

I never took the spring out of mine, but i'd imagine it's going to go everywhere once it's released. You've got a good before pic, i'd count the coils just to make sure, pop it out and give'er!