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#1 simnil

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 07:44 AM

Looking at the new Summit with the new "slim" high/low beam switch I have something to say.

When riding in the woods or in the mountains I never ever at all even once end up in a situation where I need to quickly change heater setting, engage reverse or change from high to low beam. The reverse button could be placed next to the rear light as far as I care!

The only controls to be fitted to the bars are Brake and Throttle and that's it!!
If it by some government regulation needs to be a kill switch on the bars it have to be of spring back type. The normal "Get stuck button" type switch should be banned!

The single thing, other than throttle and brake, that is nice to have on the bars, or more specifically on the riser block, is the tether switch. As it is now, when hooking the tether cord to the D-ring on my jacket I usually manages to tangle the cord around the bars several times a day. If the tether switch is located on the riser block then it moves with the bars and you are less likely to get it tangled up in the bars. And if for some reason you don't want to put it on the riser then at least put it centered and close to the steering column, not far of to one side.

In short, STOP putting unnecessary junk on the handle bars on sleds intended for "active" use!! ... I don't know how many crushed accessory buttons I have had to replace on my sleds over the years.......

.... oh, and by the way. Put the Alu Throttle block on all top of the line sleds, I think we have "Earned" (payed for) it!!
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Posted 13 March 2012 - 08:49 AM

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 08:59 AM

I use the reverse button frequently on steep descents....for me it needs to be at my thumb without having to let go of the bars. The simple but effective button they used on the '07 XRS and the '12 X is perfect IMO.
I like to replace the kill switch with a momentary push so tree limbs don't shut my sled off for me.
I moved my '12 hi/lo to the bar riser becuse I was constantly hitting it and getting a check engine from being stuck between hi/lo.
I like that they are getting simpler, I agree we only need the necessities on the bars, put the rest on the console. :righton

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 09:18 AM

I use the reverse button frequently on steep descents....for me it needs to be at my thumb without having to let go of the bars. The simple but effective button they used on the '07 XRS and the '12 X is perfect IMO.
I like to replace the kill switch with a momentary push so tree limbs don't shut my sled off for me.
I moved my '12 hi/lo to the bar riser becuse I was constantly hitting it and getting a check engine from being stuck between hi/lo.
I like that they are getting simpler, I agree we only need the necessities on the bars, put the rest on the console. :righton


Snap a couple o-rings over your kill switch to turn it into a hold-to-kill. Cheap fix.

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 09:59 AM

Snap a couple o-rings over your kill switch to turn it into a hold-to-kill. Cheap fix.



Regardless of how many O-rings you put on it it remains made out of plastic and becomes a cloud of dust if hit by anything.

I guess I can tolerate the small orange zip tied reverse button, at least it is easy to move to whereever I want it....
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Posted 13 March 2012 - 11:25 AM

Agree with you 100%. I live the controls on my XRS and one of the reasons I am having a hard time decision g between the 2013 freeride or BCX.
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Posted 13 March 2012 - 03:19 PM

I wonder if you can put the new summit controls(reverse,headlights) and put it on the freeride?

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 05:32 PM

I agree last years set up on the freeride and summit X way better than the new set up.

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 05:42 PM

Does nobody know the kill switch can be rotated wherever you want it? Turn it all the way forward and slightly down... you'll never hit it again without wanting to
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Posted 13 March 2012 - 05:57 PM

anyone ever consider the regulatory requirements for shut off switches and their required location on the bars.

Remember due to stupid people manufacturers are required to protect us all.

Now with the aluminum block, the flipper gets busted easier...so should we have aluminum flippers?

I have never once tangled a standard length tether when hookd to my jacket loop anywhere on my body. Its not long enough. That being said I run a longer tether.

The 2013 placement of it being on the right side does allow it to be worn on the right wrist though and no cross over. Since your right hand should always be on the bar anyways it makes more sense.

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 07:17 PM

I dont know, i kinda like having the controls on the bars. I use my M/S button all the time toggle and check elevation or use the compass while riding. I like the handwarmers on the bars too. When your on a bumpy trail, it lets you keep your hands on the bars the whole time. plus getting to reset the trip odometer on the fly is a nice feature.

More than likely i'll retrofit the older block style to get the controls back on the bars.
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Posted 14 March 2012 - 01:20 AM

Does nobody know the kill switch can be rotated wherever you want it? Turn it all the way forward and slightly down... you'll never hit it again without wanting to


I have tried it in every position possible and the only thing that has worked 100% was to cut it away and replace it with a better switch!

And yes, there probably are rules and regulations regarding killswitches, but there have to be a better switch fulfilling all regulations, best one I have seen from an OEM factory was the switch on the -04 ProXR 800 I had back in the days.

Yes, it CAN be nice, once every two months, to change heater setting on the fly. But how common is it to you to discover that "Wow, I have to change thumb heater NOW, within 2 seconds or I will die!!" If you find yourself in that kind of panic I suggest you slow down or stop, at least while you change heater setting. :ridedoo:
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Posted 14 March 2012 - 05:29 AM

Looking at the new Summit with the new "slim" high/low beam switch I have something to say.

When riding in the woods or in the mountains I never ever at all even once end up in a situation where I need to quickly change heater setting, engage reverse or change from high to low beam. The reverse button could be placed next to the rear light as far as I care!

The only controls to be fitted to the bars are Brake and Throttle and that's it!!
If it by some government regulation needs to be a kill switch on the bars it have to be of spring back type. The normal "Get stuck button" type switch should be banned!

The single thing, other than throttle and brake, that is nice to have on the bars, or more specifically on the riser block, is the tether switch. As it is now, when hooking the tether cord to the D-ring on my jacket I usually manages to tangle the cord around the bars several times a day. If the tether switch is located on the riser block then it moves with the bars and you are less likely to get it tangled up in the bars. And if for some reason you don't want to put it on the riser then at least put it centered and close to the steering column, not far of to one side.

In short, STOP putting unnecessary junk on the handle bars on sleds intended for "active" use!! ... I don't know how many crushed accessory buttons I have had to replace on my sleds over the years.......

.... oh, and by the way. Put the Alu Throttle block on all top of the line sleds, I think we have "Earned" (payed for) it!!


Agree with all of it!

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 09:19 AM

Does nobody know the kill switch can be rotated wherever you want it? Turn it all the way forward and slightly down... you'll never hit it again without wanting to



Tree branches....those things are everywhere. :Cheers

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 10:18 AM

Tree branches....those things are everywhere. :Cheers

Yeah.. mine is pointed forward and down, with elastic bands and its still a bother. Probably I will try a Dirtbike type momentary when it get smashed next time.
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