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300winchester
Less than 600 miles, fun to plow trails on snowy nights, really gets babied.
have more pics if interested, email me at mgmiam@yahoo.com
gtnl
QUOTE (300winchester @ Nov 19 2009, 09:05 AM) *
Less than 600 miles, fun to plow trails on snowy nights, really gets babied.
have more pics if interested, email me at mgmiam@yahoo.com


Personally, I think the Alpine is beautiful and this is an extraordinary specimen. I'm envious.

I've always wondered though... why do they only have a single front ski?

Steve
Mario Tomberli
QUOTE (gtnl @ Nov 19 2009, 08:18 AM) *
Personally, I think the Alpine is beautiful and this is an extraordinary specimen. I'm envious.

I've always wondered though... why do they only have a single front ski?

Steve



The single front ski was so that you never get hung up on small trees. You would just bounce off to the left or right. That is a very clean alpine. Was this the last year they were made? didn't realize these newer alpines were on sliders. How heavy is that machines, looks like no fun if it gets stuck.

Are you selling it?
bicois
QUOTE (Mario Tomberli @ Nov 19 2009, 07:55 PM) *
The single front ski was so that you never get hung up on small trees. You would just bounce off to the left or right. That is a very clean alpine. Was this the last year they were made? didn't realize these newer alpines were on sliders. How heavy is that machines, looks like no fun if it gets stuck.

Are you selling it?


I worked with this beast,,,,
dont get stuck
you still be there at spring :-)))))
or bring Arnold,,,with you.
But if it is in shape and an intelligent driver,,,you cannot imagine what it can do
i remember going over a remote site with 2 sled and 2 x 45 gallons of diesel ,,,,,it got me there without a problem


Bicois
HiOctane
QUOTE (Mario Tomberli @ Nov 19 2009, 07:55 PM) *
Was this the last year they were made?


Yes,last year made.They came with Skandic WT in '96 as replacement.
gtnl
QUOTE (HiOctane @ Nov 22 2009, 10:00 PM) *
Yes,last year made.They came with Skandic WT in '96 as replacement.


I've wanted an Alpine since I was a kid. Others wanted the racing machines... I wanted the twin tracks!!! lol While I know this beauty isn't for sale, how much do they sell for used. I know that varies, just ballpark figures will do. And... if anyone hears about one for sale in Newfoundland, please PM me! :-)

Steve
HiOctane
QUOTE (gtnl @ Nov 22 2009, 09:18 PM) *
I've wanted an Alpine since I was a kid. Others wanted the racing machines... I wanted the twin tracks!!! lol While I know this beauty isn't for sale, how much do they sell for used. I know that varies, just ballpark figures will do. And... if anyone hears about one for sale in Newfoundland, please PM me! :-)

Steve

If you really want one,try Contant in Laval,Quebec.He usually many used ones.You can check used sleds on his website.Just google it.
got2sled
QUOTE (HiOctane @ Nov 22 2009, 09:37 PM) *
If you really want one,try Contant in Laval,Quebec.He usually many used ones.You can check used sleds on his website.Just google it.

I agree they go anywhere.I had a alpine 640er to groom trails.It will pull a tremendous load but steering is the issue.After 8 hours of grooming I,ll take the skandik WT.I assume the alpine II is a little more friendly than the 76 alpine.It has the 503 fan?
White Crow
I had a 78 Alpine what a beast! One of the problems I had was the ski became a great anchor when you wanted to go backwards in deep snow just flipped up. I ended up putting an air shock on it with a small electric compressor it not only steered fairly well and the ski did not flip up in reverse.
Teleskiah
There is one for sale on Maine Craigslist, it is actually for two...One good the other for parts, supposedly the parts sled only needs a few things to make it workable

Alpine

In case you are interested.
Mario Tomberli
I grew up with alpines. My dad has 4+ alpines (Valmonts) in various states from 1967 to 1986. My dad doesn't use them anymoute but I 've seen those old 67 alpines do amazing things. The thing weighs maybe 450 pounds with all that floatation.
gtnl
QUOTE (Teleskiah @ Nov 23 2009, 09:27 PM) *
There is one for sale on Maine Craigslist, it is actually for two...One good the other for parts, supposedly the parts sled only needs a few things to make it workable

Alpine

In case you are interested.



Thanks... it's too far away to merit serious consideration, but it gives me some idea on price at least.
Steve
gtnl
QUOTE (Mario Tomberli @ Nov 23 2009, 11:55 PM) *
I grew up with alpines. My dad has 4+ alpines (Valmonts) in various states from 1967 to 1986. My dad doesn't use them anymoute but I 've seen those old 67 alpines do amazing things. The thing weighs maybe 450 pounds with all that floatation.


Is the Valmont a little shorter than the Alpine? I thought it had one less set of bogies.
Steve
tommc56
The Valmont (71-74) used the Oly track , 114" ?
couchsachraga
QUOTE (tommc56 @ Nov 24 2009, 02:04 PM) *
The Valmont (71-74) used the Oly track , 114" ?


Don't necessarily go by that one in Maine price wise.

Locally (upstate NY) they seem to go for 1k-2.5k these days in running shape. A nice '93 II sold in Maine for less than 1800 early this fall... and the Alpine II is a VERY different machine than the I (I have both - a 79 and '86 ALpine I, and a 95 ALpine II (not in as nice shape though as the first one posted here - WOW!).

With a little work to the ski they turn just fine - better than a stock Skandic actually. Ride comfort is where they fall behind... especially on the Alpine I's. I use mine for grooming, and as cheap workhorses I don't think they can be beat. And for 10k I'd seriously consider a tracked ATV rather than a Skandic SWT or VkPro.

Nice to hear so many other ALpine stories:) Not a lot around locally anymore.
gtnl
QUOTE (couchsachraga @ Nov 25 2009, 08:57 PM) *
Don't necessarily go by that one in Maine price wise.

Locally (upstate NY) they seem to go for 1k-2.5k these days in running shape. A nice '93 II sold in Maine for less than 1800 early this fall... and the Alpine II is a VERY different machine than the I (I have both - a 79 and '86 ALpine I, and a 95 ALpine II (not in as nice shape though as the first one posted here - WOW!).

With a little work to the ski they turn just fine - better than a stock Skandic actually. Ride comfort is where they fall behind... especially on the Alpine I's. I use mine for grooming, and as cheap workhorses I don't think they can be beat. And for 10k I'd seriously consider a tracked ATV rather than a Skandic SWT or VkPro.

Nice to hear so many other ALpine stories:) Not a lot around locally anymore.


Thanks for the info...
Care to elaborate on the differences you find between the Alpine I and II. Also, what kind of ski work do you suggest?

Steve
White Crow
Here is a great site for Alpines. http://www.skidooalpine.com/ This guy is in Maine not far from where I live great guy has tons of parts and complete sleds including two Alpines I sold him.
couchsachraga
Doug (skidooalpine.com) is a great guy, and does have lots of Alpine I parts and sleds.

Alpine I is basically at 1960's design with bits and pieces updated depending on the year - but still an older design (which does not make it bad - basic is GOOD in a lot of respects.) The Alpine II is a late 80's design.

My thoughts on Alpines (some of them anyway - I spend far too much time looking at equipment and playing with Alpines. I haven't been grooming that long - only about 20 years, so there are lots of folks with more experience than I).

Alpine I - good basic machine, especially after '83 or so (when you had two forward speeds, plus reverse, and the 503). Older (76-early 80's) work well too, especially if you are not grooming (the 2 forward speed is really nice for grooming). The 640 engine is strong, though a bit more cold blooded than the 503 in my experience. Steering is OK - on a packed trail with good skegs is not a problem, especially if you use your weight (you can even lift the inside track in a turn (leaning to the outside) for a really quick turn. Easy to flip, yes, but it works amazingly well.) I've retrofitted a mikuni carb to my '79 (640 and single forward speed transmission) and it is a definite improvement over the original Tillotson. For rolling, track packing, and general maintenance it has been my go-to sled. My '86 is outfitting to be a pulling monster - I've bolted 1.5" flat stock to the ski edges, making two outer "super skegs" and steering is better than any Skandic I've ever been on. To improve pulling power I tracked down some Simmons Flexicleats and cut them down to a bit over 1" (the stock track is .625 - a far cry from the 1.25 lugs on Skandics...). Not as fast any more, but it will grind up anything, and steer well. Bogie suspension works, but not much in the way of ride comfort at all. Windshield is a bit small, and the way the exhaust is routed you end your day smelling like 2 stroke strongly.

Alpine II - MUCH more "modern" in almost every respect. Improved steering, bigger lugged tracks (albeit .75") slide suspension with quite a bit of movement. Frame is much less likely to get caught on something as well (Alpine I frame in the rear is only 2" or so above snow - Alpine II is about 6") Bigger windshield, much more comfy operator position. The downside is it's much heavier (over 700 lbs). With an ALpine I if needed I can shovel and skootch it a bit by hand - and two people can pick up the rear. Not the II.... For that is is come=a-long all the way (or winch).

Once we get some snow I'll try and post some images of both at work, and side by side.

I just picked up my own II, and if it works out as I hope I'll likely put my '79 up for sale - I like having multiple sleds, but I'm not sure I "need" three:)
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