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06StangGT
Hey guys,

Im getting my first sled this year after years of telling myself I'd get a sled. Now I'm primarily a car guy, but I've had quads, dirtbikes etc. And I've always had to put some sort of pipe/exhaust on my toys because I'm a huge fan of sound. I'm going to be riding a rev 800 this year, and I really would like a can, but Ive heard everything is considered illegal, and I don't want to be a ticket magnet. Ill be doing alot of tug hill/old forge riding, and I'm curious to see what the general consensus of riders think about exhausts, and how strictly enforced it is.


Thanks,

Josh
skidooxps
i have a can on my sled ur gonna get a bunch of people that like say ur gonna close trails. but anyways i have bin riding with a can for 2000miles no problems with cops
nysledneck
I know many guys that have gotten tickets for it. They are cracking down on it huge now. And after the 1st ticket they double the fine everytime you get another one. So its whether you can afford taking the chance...lol
06StangGT
Yeah it really seems like one of those things that you have to try your luck on, 2 buddies of mine both have REV's with just can's on them, they said they have never been ticketed, but one time a cop had them open the hood, and not the side.
02800adrenaline
i used to run a can, but i got a ticket last year. the judge was cool, he pretty much dropped it after i showed him a pic of my sled with the stock exhaust on it. could have been alot more costly than the $15 i ended up paying. but yes, word around here is that they are/will be cracking down alot more. so i will just run the stock setup. i love the sound too, but if it is such an issue now, im not going to ruin a good day of riding with a ticket. my sled came with both so i was lucky. personally, i wouldnt spend the dough on a can as they really do nothing for performance, but thats just me.
06StangGT
Yeah Ill most likely keep the sled stock, summer is my season for tickets as it is. Do the REV 800's have a good sound to them already?
thunderdragon1
QUOTE (06StangGT @ Oct 15 2009, 09:39 PM) *
Yeah Ill most likely keep the sled stock, summer is my season for tickets as it is. Do the REV 800's have a good sound to them already?

Yes previous posters are correct. They have really cracked down on cans on Tug Hill and I was told last year that if they write you a ticket and then you get caught again without complete stock exhaust, they will (and can) confiscate your sled. My riding buddy had this happen to him last season and it cost him a few hundred bucks to get sled back. I wasn;t with him when it happened but he told me about it and I went with him to get sled back. Best advice is too keep them stock. REV 800's sound good stock. And yes most cans do nothing for performance and most allow pipe to lose heat and then power suffers.
willpower23
i was ridding old forge back in 04 on my rev, and i had a mbrp can on, i was goin thru intel and i trooper stopped me as i was crossin the road, they nailed me for loud exhaust, it cost me 175 dollars back then, god only knows what it is now, but since then stock exhaust,it aint worth it, i heard up in tug hill the land owner are gettin "edit for bad language" off about the loud exhaust, they want to close there property, cuz it wakes them up at nite. leave it stock, sum cans even rob hp!!!
02800adrenaline
yeah, i think most of us can agree that as much as we may like the aggressive sound, its just not worth risking losing our priveliges that the landowners so graciously grant us. not to mention the $$$ and headaches it can cost us. im a die-hard motorhead. i love the sound of piped hotrod, big rig, bike, sled, whatever.. but there are plenty of other things about sledding to enjoy..not running a can doesnt really spoil the ride that much for me...now if they were to set up radar on the lake and cherry pick a few guys having some fun in the wide open frozen yonder checkeredflagg.gif ...well, il shut up so i dont jinx it! blush.gif
ridgerunner2
It's not about whther or not you get a ticket, it's about landowners closing trails. Loud exhaust is one of the top reasons landowners give for closing trails and/or not allowing access. I say this having the experience of being both a club president and landowner relations coordinator. Man, do loud pipes "edit for bad language" off landowners. Especially at night. You might ride right past the police without incident, but never be able to ride that trail again. I think they sound cool too. I bought a used Cat with one on it once. I had a balst rippen around my yard with it, then took it off and put the stock back on. Not worth the trail closure risk. Spend the $ on clutching or some other mod biggrin.gif
tcnomad
2X on that Ridgerunner2!
Thumb2bar
QUOTE (ridgerunner2 @ Oct 17 2009, 01:35 PM) *
It's not about whther or not you get a ticket, it's about landowners closing trails. Loud exhaust is one of the top reasons landowners give for closing trails and/or not allowing access. I say this having the experience of being both a club president and landowner relations coordinator. Man, do loud pipes "edit for bad language" off landowners. Especially at night. You might ride right past the police without incident, but never be able to ride that trail again. I think they sound cool too. I bought a used Cat with one on it once. I had a balst rippen around my yard with it, then took it off and put the stock back on. Not worth the trail closure risk. Spend the $ on clutching or some other mod biggrin.gif

People need to look at the BIG picture. I realize what you are up against as a landowner relations guy. Our club in VT is constantly trying to appease landowners, and yes, mostly because of loud cans. I understand there are ares where sound does not matter, but in the Northeast, these areas are few. Tough job and thanks!
mxzrevman
well here is what iv learned
dootalk.com started in the year 2002
in that time i believe there has been about 8,437 "loud can" threads

this is the way i see it...pros and cons

PRO...a few lbs of weight savings
PRO...2 TO 3 H/P gain

CON...ANNOYING
CON..illegal (in most parts)
CON...gets you tickets
CON...cost lots of $$$$
CON...ticks off land owners
CON...gets trails closed
CON..gives me headaches
CON... floods dootalk with "loud can" threads
CON...in turn makes more work for our already overworked dootalk moderation team
CON...somehow causes the users of the"loud cans"... to CONSTANTLY burp the throttle,
at intersections, gas pumps,and parking lots...for no apparent reason , other than to let every living creature
in a 2 mile radius , aware that they have a ""loud can""

and unfortunately like 95% of "loud can" threads... this one will probably get locked down, or deleted
Thumb2bar
I had to use an IBM supercomputer to quantify the loud can/kiss myarse, I'm getting a can/I gained two inches of manliness with my new can/ threads. Agreed, the bandwidth dedicated to this topic is silly. I honestly believe that some people may be so dumb that they really do not realize the "risk"of a can. Education on the topic is critical to keeping trails open re: Stowe VT rt 100, Bridgewater VT Rt 100, blah blah. These are colossal closures and set a dangerous precedent. I want to ride, plain and simple. BTW, the only gains from adding a can are in the sellers pocket. Few make power.
02800adrenaline
i dont believe the person who started this thread had the intention of starting another one of those pointless can threads. he is new to sledding, likes aggressive sound on stuff, but was looking for some advice and guidance from us as to the prudence/imprudence of using one. if you would go back ttt and read his initial post you would have concluded that for yourself. and furthermore, im pretty sure all but 1 of us who posted, steered him right by recommending NOT using a can for all the reasons pertainent, IE landowners not liking the noise and closing trails, illegal, big fines, and so on. and amazingly, nobody got nasty or immature about it! i think there are a few "useful" can threads and this is one of them. we might have helped this person make the right decision NOT to waste money on a can that could get a trail closed or get him a fine. as i said before, i USED to run one, but since it has become an issue in the area i ride, (and i got a ticket once) i have decided to let it go, and go back to stock. its no big deal, and not worth the risk of losing trails and getting fined.
dynofox
If you plan to ride in the tug hill / old forge area I'd leave the stock can on or get something that is close to stock levels (dynoport big volume, slp) as there are a ton of cops on the trails in those areas.
06StangGT
02800adrenaline is correct, I was simply curious to see what every body else thought about cans. This thread has steered me away from the idea until I read more about the Dynoports. I'm not looking for loud, just different. Thank you for all of the positive responses guys.
Thumb2bar
QUOTE (02800adrenaline @ Oct 18 2009, 07:19 PM) *
i dont believe the person who started this thread had the intention of starting another one of those pointless can threads. he is new to sledding, likes aggressive sound on stuff, but was looking for some advice and guidance from us as to the prudence/imprudence of using one. if you would go back ttt and read his initial post you would have concluded that for yourself. and furthermore, im pretty sure all but 1 of us who posted, steered him right by recommending NOT using a can for all the reasons pertainent, IE landowners not liking the noise and closing trails, illegal, big fines, and so on. and amazingly, nobody got nasty or immature about it! i think there are a few "useful" can threads and this is one of them. we might have helped this person make the right decision NOT to waste money on a can that could get a trail closed or get him a fine. as i said before, i USED to run one, but since it has become an issue in the area i ride, (and i got a ticket once) i have decided to let it go, and go back to stock. its no big deal, and not worth the risk of losing trails and getting fined.

Reread post twelve, then 14. Not meant as a poke at the OP. Perhaps my wording was wrong, but I was responding to MXZREVMAN, not the OP. Meant as a rail against those who throw the finger at those who oppose cans in the northeast. I actually read these posts well and often conclude that many people are selfish. I too like the sound of a throaty two stroke. I had a dynoport trail can a while back,so I am no angel. To wrap up my thoughts, it really is a big deal. We in Vt are on the cusp of losing some important trails, trails that will effectively cut off the north from the south. If people are more worried about the fine for having a can than losing trails, again, look at the big picture. Peace to all. Out!
02800adrenaline
no problem THUMB2BAR, i believe we all agree here. and i agree it is a big deal. what i meant when i said "no big deal", was that its no big deal for me NOT to run one anymore. my fault for not being more clear. good luck in your efforts to keep your trails all open over there in VT! hope it can be worked out to everyones satisfaction.

06StangGT: you are on the right track to pass up getting a can..even a Dynoport. they ARE louder than stock, and Law Enforcement is enforcing "other than stock=illegal". i have a dynoport trail can on my mach-z i recently picked up, but i tracked down a stock silencer for it just this past weekend cuz even the trail can is noticeably louder than a stock setup, and thats all it takes. good luck to ya and i almost forgot, WELCOME TO DOOTALK!!! you will love it here! lots of knowledgable people who like to help out a fellow sledder here...
Thumb2bar
02,
We are on the same page and again my bad if I offended anybody. I just want the word out to all that they are definately, definately , cracking down on noise. Whether it is through noise enforcement on the trails or curfews, which are extremely prohibitive to making long trips. As was said, keeping peace with landowners is difficult enough as it is in VT. I think NY will be next. I was having a burger at the Sportsman last spring and talking to a local cop. He said they are putting the hammer down due to complaints of last year. Let it snow!
Trail Ryder

Anyone have any links, by independent testers, that show any power gains with "cans"?

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