CJ Motorsports/FP Performance Turbo update
Last year we released our Turbo kit which has worked out very well. There was a small percentage with issues and we have spent considerable time this past summer to eliminate all issues regarding the 1200 4tec with our turbo kit.
Our Stage 1 Turbo kits [200-220HP] operate at 5-6 lbs of boost. The stage 1 kit fueling system is not set up for higher boost levels, thus if the stage 1 system is tinkered with and operates at higher boost levels problems will occur. To ensure we run at the proper boost levels with are also including a boost gage in our Stage 1 Kit this year so the rider can visually check the boost level.
IMO BRP has recognized that the 09 TNT 1200’s cooling systems in certain circumstances may have been marginal. The 2009 Gades had a larger cooler than the short trackers. For 2010 BRP has increased the coolant volume on the 2010 TNT’s and have reduced the thermostat from 170 degrees to 150 degrees to improve the situation. They also have an optional Rad kit part # 860 200 256 to assist with anyone having cooling issues with a 2009 model. There is no denying our Turbo kit increases HP from the stock 135HP to 200+ HP which adds heat to the system. We didn’t see the problem with Gade’s but did see a few overheating failures on the sTNT’s particularly when run in poor snow conditions. Unfortunately we believe the new rad kit from BRP probably won’t work for the 2009 TNT’s with our Turbo kit as it may use the same space as our Turbo Kit. For anyone wanting a Stage 1 Turbo Kit for a 2009 short track 4 stroker, we will be releasing our own additional cooling system soon!
Other News:
The quiet can is now completed, tested and yielded nearly 20HP on our Turbo set up over the stock exhaust. Dyno testing will be completed soon with a non Turbo stock motor and our quiet can. The Quiet can is 5 decibels louder than stock on the Turbo sled. Please remember our turbo kit with stock exhaust is quieter than the stock 1200, so the 1200 with Turbo and our quiet can is virtually the same loudness as the stock 1200 without Turbo.
The Race can is slightly improved for this year and also showed nearly 20HP on the dyno with our Turbo. The can is 10 Decibels louder than the stock exhaust
For those who want to run big boost we do have aluminum air intake’s available which will eliminate any airbox failures.
Clutching issue on the TRA 5
As you know there has been a problem with the TRA 5 primary with the increased HP and Torque of the Turbo breaking the clutch bolt due to slippage on the taper shaft. We believe we have resolved the problem with a $150 modification. We also make the recommendation to change out the moving sheave to a forged sheave [approx $200.00 US List]. We will post pictures soon
The Big News is our custom built Pistons for the 1200’s!!! These Pistons are a direct replacement for the stock pistons and have been engineered to handle the increase in HP and Torque of Turbo’s and Nitrous. We have just completed testing and validating the new piston at Dynotech Research.
257.3 HP 171.7 lbs of torque ON PUMP FUEL!
Jim will post the numbers soon. Please go to dynotechresearch.com to see all the numbers!
In conclusion we want to thank all who have purchased from us and it was wonderful to meet some of you at the Big East Show! More performance products to come! Think Snow
Mark @ CJ Motorsports
Justin @ Full Power Performance
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What doo the pistons cost ?
QUOTE (Dragster @ Oct 5 2009, 07:37 PM) 
CJ Motorsports/FP Performance Turbo update
Last year we released our Turbo kit which has worked out very well. There was a small percentage with issues and we have spent considerable time this past summer to eliminate all issues regarding the 1200 4tec with our turbo kit.
Our Stage 1 Turbo kits [200-220HP] operate at 5-6 lbs of boost. The stage 1 kit fueling system is not set up for higher boost levels, thus if the stage 1 system is tinkered with and operates at higher boost levels problems will occur. To ensure we run at the proper boost levels with are also including a boost gage in our Stage 1 Kit this year so the rider can visually check the boost level.
IMO BRP has recognized that the 09 TNT 1200’s cooling systems in certain circumstances may have been marginal. The 2009 Gades had a larger cooler than the short trackers. For 2010 BRP has increased the coolant volume on the 2010 TNT’s and have reduced the thermostat from 170 degrees to 150 degrees to improve the situation. They also have an optional Rad kit part # 860 200 256 to assist with anyone having cooling issues with a 2009 model. There is no denying our Turbo kit increases HP from the stock 135HP to 200+ HP which adds heat to the system. We didn’t see the problem with Gade’s but did see a few overheating failures on the sTNT’s particularly when run in poor snow conditions. Unfortunately we believe the new rad kit from BRP probably won’t work for the 2009 TNT’s with our Turbo kit as it may use the same space as our Turbo Kit. For anyone wanting a Stage 1 Turbo Kit for a 2009 short track 4 stroker, we will be releasing our own additional cooling system soon!
Other News:
The quiet can is now completed, tested and yielded nearly 20HP on our Turbo set up over the stock exhaust. Dyno testing will be completed soon with a non Turbo stock motor and our quiet can. The Quiet can is 5 decibels louder than stock on the Turbo sled. Please remember our turbo kit with stock exhaust is quieter than the stock 1200, so the 1200 with Turbo and our quiet can is virtually the same loudness as the stock 1200 without Turbo.
The Race can is slightly improved for this year and also showed nearly 20HP on the dyno with our Turbo. The can is 10 Decibels louder than the stock exhaust
For those who want to run big boost we do have aluminum air intake’s available which will eliminate any airbox failures.
Clutching issue on the TRA 5
As you know there has been a problem with the TRA 5 primary with the increased HP and Torque of the Turbo breaking the clutch bolt due to slippage on the taper shaft. We believe we have resolved the problem with a $150 modification. We also make the recommendation to change out the moving sheave to a forged sheave [approx $200.00 US List]. We will post pictures soon
The Big News is our custom built Pistons for the 1200’s!!! These Pistons are a direct replacement for the stock pistons and have been engineered to handle the increase in HP and Torque of Turbo’s and Nitrous. We have just completed testing and validating the new piston at Dynotech Research.
257.3 HP 171.7 lbs of torque ON PUMP FUEL!
Jim will post the numbers soon. Please go to dynotechresearch.com to see all the numbers!
In conclusion we want to thank all who have purchased from us and it was wonderful to meet some of you at the Big East Show! More performance products to come! Think Snow
Mark @ CJ Motorsports
Justin @ Full Power Performance
Last year we released our Turbo kit which has worked out very well. There was a small percentage with issues and we have spent considerable time this past summer to eliminate all issues regarding the 1200 4tec with our turbo kit.
Our Stage 1 Turbo kits [200-220HP] operate at 5-6 lbs of boost. The stage 1 kit fueling system is not set up for higher boost levels, thus if the stage 1 system is tinkered with and operates at higher boost levels problems will occur. To ensure we run at the proper boost levels with are also including a boost gage in our Stage 1 Kit this year so the rider can visually check the boost level.
IMO BRP has recognized that the 09 TNT 1200’s cooling systems in certain circumstances may have been marginal. The 2009 Gades had a larger cooler than the short trackers. For 2010 BRP has increased the coolant volume on the 2010 TNT’s and have reduced the thermostat from 170 degrees to 150 degrees to improve the situation. They also have an optional Rad kit part # 860 200 256 to assist with anyone having cooling issues with a 2009 model. There is no denying our Turbo kit increases HP from the stock 135HP to 200+ HP which adds heat to the system. We didn’t see the problem with Gade’s but did see a few overheating failures on the sTNT’s particularly when run in poor snow conditions. Unfortunately we believe the new rad kit from BRP probably won’t work for the 2009 TNT’s with our Turbo kit as it may use the same space as our Turbo Kit. For anyone wanting a Stage 1 Turbo Kit for a 2009 short track 4 stroker, we will be releasing our own additional cooling system soon!
Other News:
The quiet can is now completed, tested and yielded nearly 20HP on our Turbo set up over the stock exhaust. Dyno testing will be completed soon with a non Turbo stock motor and our quiet can. The Quiet can is 5 decibels louder than stock on the Turbo sled. Please remember our turbo kit with stock exhaust is quieter than the stock 1200, so the 1200 with Turbo and our quiet can is virtually the same loudness as the stock 1200 without Turbo.
The Race can is slightly improved for this year and also showed nearly 20HP on the dyno with our Turbo. The can is 10 Decibels louder than the stock exhaust
For those who want to run big boost we do have aluminum air intake’s available which will eliminate any airbox failures.
Clutching issue on the TRA 5
As you know there has been a problem with the TRA 5 primary with the increased HP and Torque of the Turbo breaking the clutch bolt due to slippage on the taper shaft. We believe we have resolved the problem with a $150 modification. We also make the recommendation to change out the moving sheave to a forged sheave [approx $200.00 US List]. We will post pictures soon
The Big News is our custom built Pistons for the 1200’s!!! These Pistons are a direct replacement for the stock pistons and have been engineered to handle the increase in HP and Torque of Turbo’s and Nitrous. We have just completed testing and validating the new piston at Dynotech Research.
257.3 HP 171.7 lbs of torque ON PUMP FUEL!
Jim will post the numbers soon. Please go to dynotechresearch.com to see all the numbers!
In conclusion we want to thank all who have purchased from us and it was wonderful to meet some of you at the Big East Show! More performance products to come! Think Snow
Mark @ CJ Motorsports
Justin @ Full Power Performance
Thanks for the post. Were you able to get 257 hp and 171 lbs torque with the 5-6 lbs of boost or did you add boost? Or are those numbers from your can plus custom pistons at 5-6 lbs?
Also, the primary clutch issue that you address- are you hitting 257 hp and 171 lbs torque with the stock clutch with your changes? If so, are you comfortable it will hold together with that much torque?
Thanks again!
My kit showed up today. Looks great Mark, now I'll be needing one of those new quiet cans we talked about. Its going to be a fun season!
QUOTE (KnappAttack @ Oct 7 2009, 08:59 PM)
My kit showed up today. Looks great Mark, now I'll be needing one of those new quiet cans we talked about. Its going to be a fun season!
Glad to here you got! Please let me know what you think of the install. Cans hopefuuly late next week!
Mark
QUOTE (rocketman356 @ Oct 6 2009, 05:49 PM)
What doo the pistons cost ?
$199.95 complete each piston
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