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809screamer
does any body know if there still going to bust the crap outta people with cans on there sleds here in maine ..
500sskid
yea most likely for a couple more winters then it will prob die down
Maine pilot
QUOTE (500sskid @ Dec 8 2008, 08:07 PM) *
yea most likely for a couple more winters then it will prob die down


One big complaint last year was from the motel owners , people riding all hours of the night with loud sleds keeping their guests awake. This ie something that will not go a way in a while.
809screamer
QUOTE (Maine pilot @ Dec 9 2008, 12:26 PM) *
One big complaint last year was from the motel owners , people riding all hours of the night with loud sleds keeping their guests awake. This ie something that will not go a way in a while.



i dont blame them ... but for gamewardens to say Stock only is bs ... i think they should use a db meter not go buy it just having a can ..
it seems to me they are just killing the sport little by little ... and on another not what makes the diff between my sled and a harley with drag pipes or a truck with dual glass packs ... If they are going to fine me they need to fine everyone else ..
mxz800rev74
QUOTE (809screamer @ Dec 14 2008, 05:21 PM) *
i dont blame them ... but for gamewardens to say Stock only is bs ... i think they should use a db meter not go buy it just having a can ..
it seems to me they are just killing the sport little by little ... and on another not what makes the diff between my sled and a harley with drag pipes or a truck with dual glass packs ... If they are going to fine me they need to fine everyone else ..


Harleys are on public land and sleds are on private land. That is the big difference, but I do think some of the Harleys are too loud. I don't think gamewardens take away from the sport, but it is the people riding on private property and not respecting the land owner. If harleys rode on private property they wouldn't be allowed to be so loud either.
809screamer
I have decide to stay with my stock box and run my crankshops into them
TK HO
loud cans are often employed by those with quiet downstairs.
hickmxz
QUOTE (809screamer @ Dec 14 2008, 05:21 PM) *
i dont blame them ... but for gamewardens to say Stock only is bs ... i think they should use a db meter not go buy it just having a can ..
it seems to me they are just killing the sport little by little ... and on another not what makes the diff between my sled and a harley with drag pipes or a truck with dual glass packs ... If they are going to fine me they need to fine everyone else ..


My thoughts exactly ... i love to hear a nice Harley but why do they get away with it if we couldn't on our sleds and trucks?
MACH-ZEME
QUOTE (mxz800rev74 @ Dec 17 2008, 01:21 PM) *
Harleys are on public land and sleds are on private land. That is the big difference, but I do think some of the Harleys are too loud. I don't think gamewardens take away from the sport, but it is the people riding on private property and not respecting the land owner. If harleys rode on private property they wouldn't be allowed to be so loud either.



Thank you ! Very well put ! right_on.gif
tbeaton
i like loud, but most cans don't do anything for power and 90% of them are just retarted loud.
marinetechnician
I wish there where more wardens out to write more tickets for loud sleds. Times are achangin boys , its not like the old days when we all ran tuned pipes with no silencers. Sign of the times. Just my 2 cents.
TK HO
do people only enjoy sledding if their machine has a can on it? is sledding retarded boring without one?

you can't drive 100mph down the highway. you can't drive on the left side of the road. well because of that, driving just sucks. but i do it anyway. what's the big deal?
BARK-A-LOUNGER
QUOTE (TK HO @ Jan 3 2009, 12:47 PM) *
loud cans are often employed by those with quiet downstairs.



Ha, ha, ha.... good one wink.gif

I am a fan of loud cans but then I heard a sled with just a good sound, and awesome tone and wanted that instead. Too bad I don't know what he was running but the BS crack down against anything other than stock is just that. BS!

So now even if aftermarketers did make a can within decibel levels we couldn't run 'em. I believe it should be controlled, but with a use of a meter at a set rpm.
809screamer
my 809 with a stock can does not meet the maine sate db law for sleds at 50ft 60degree's ... at the time i was running a Mbrp but have switched to a jaw's and talked with them and told them what was going on in maine and they came up with a can that sounded good but was stock db cool huh .. We'll I got bagged for 225.00 about two weeks after running the can said it wasnt stock. ok so I went to court fought with them got it dropped down to 150.00 and they said take it off I agreed but never did ... I just stay away from greenville game wardens down near central maine dont really seem to care as long as you are not out at 9pm with a jaws race can goofing off in town.. never had a problem since and have been stopped to check reg I just learned that up north the game wardens are a holes and are trying to make up for not being well endowed down stairs and have to right tickets to boost there little man ego syndrome ....



sorry for the rant but it "edit for bad language"'s me off i agree there is suck a thing as to loud but what the heck a ultra-q don't even pass with them "edit for bad language" holes
TK HO
QUOTE (BARK-A-LOUNGER @ Oct 13 2009, 10:06 AM) *
Ha, ha, ha.... good one wink.gif

I am a fan of loud cans but then I heard a sled with just a good sound, and awesome tone and wanted that instead. Too bad I don't know what he was running but the BS crack down against anything other than stock is just that. BS!

So now even if aftermarketers did make a can within decibel levels we couldn't run 'em. I believe it should be controlled, but with a use of a meter at a set rpm.


how would one go about testing at a certain rpm? it would have to be in the range of rpm's that it is typically employed while riding the sled. testing at idle or before clutch engagement would be nearly useless for a gauge on sound. the wardens on the trails can't lug around track stands with them. can't just throw it in neutral and hit it. they can't make people take the belt off to rev it, that would be ludicrous. they aren't going to trust people to drive by and actually hold it at the right rpm.... and not so much worry about that but rather them taking off. you're not going to let a warden ride around on your sled while you wait for him to take a reading, right?

it pretty much all comes back to public vs. private land. homes and property are being bought and sold all the time. new guy moves in and a single sled rides by that's "too loud" in their opinion and the trail gets shut down. and all it takes is one person. now if that person complains because a harley went by, the town isn't going to shut down the street, that's a given. but it's not the town closing the trails, it's the individual landowners. all it takes is one fool that braaps at the wrong time in the wrong place and the rest of the sledding community suffers.

them handing out tickets for exhausts other than stock, well, that's just preservation of interest for all. they don't do it just to pee in your cheerios. they're not looking to make anyone angry. it may be a result of their actions, but it's for the greater good. i want to run straight headers out the fenders of my truck. i want to run monster truck tires. i want to drive 95mph down the highway. but i can't, so i accept that and find something else to do.

now don't think i'm bashing or dissing people with cans (i only do that to the a/c riders with cans wacko.gif laugh.gif). i like the sound of a good exhaust just like anybody else. but i look at both sides of the spectrum. run the exhaust and risk losing places to ride..... or just run it stock because it still sounds gnarly and continue to enjoy what's available, and find my kicks someplace else. my comment about the "quiet downstairs" was a joke, nothing more cheers.gif
BHShaman
QUOTE (809screamer @ Dec 14 2008, 06:21 PM) *
i dont blame them ... but for gamewardens to say Stock only is bs ... i think they should use a db meter not go buy it just having a can ..


Maine law does not prohibit aftermarket cans.
You have to maintain < 78db at 50ft using a specific decibel meter.

Print this and if a warden tries to ticket you strictly for having a non-stock can, pass it to him and ask him if he has his decibel meter and you will be more happy to let him test it. IF, however, you are over the limit expect a big a** fine for a whole bunch of stuff he can add on after the fact.

http://www.maine.gov/ifw/laws_rules/snowlaws.htm#noise

QUOTE
14. Snowmobile noise level limits. This subsection governs noise levels for snowmobiles.
A. Except as provided in section 13112, a person may not:

1. Operate a snowmobile that exceeds the noise limits for that snowmobile established in paragraph B; or

2. Modify a snowmobile in a manner that amplifies or otherwise increases total noise emission above that of the snowmobile as originally constructed, regardless of the date of manufacture.

B. The following noise levels are established:

1. Every snowmobile manufactured after February 1, 1975, and offered for sale or sold in this State must be constructed to limit total vehicle noise to not more than 78 decibels of sound pressure level at 50 feet on the "A" scale, as measured by the SAE standards J-192;

2. Snowmobiles manufactured after October 1, 1973, but on or before February 1, 1975, and offered for sale or sold in this State must be constructed to limit the total vehicle noise to not more than 82 decibels of sound pressure level at 50 feet on the "A" scale, as measured by the SAE standards J-192; and

3. Snowmobiles manufactured on or before October 1, 1973 are not subject to a specific noise level, except that they may not be modified in violation of this subsection.

809screamer
hahaha ya that would ruffle his feathers a bit ..lol
TheMainer
Just be sure to have a 50ft. tape on you to. If the Warden thought you were an "edit for bad language" he'd probably try to stand at 30 or 40. biggrin.gif
brraap700zx
and make sure its the right decible meter, the cops around here last year tried to do the same thing on us Harley guys, , got stopped once, and he pulled out his trusty lil meter, and immediatly i asked to see it...(I work at a Harley dealership and know that the ones issued tothe "Jonny law" guys says right on it..."NOT FOR USE ON MOTORCYCLES") hahahaha Talk about one steamin mad occifer!!!
TimMckenna
The Maine Warden Service had a booth at the Snowmobile show in Augusta in October and the warden I talked to said that was going to be a very big priority this year as some of the biggest landowners have threatened to shut off the trails unless they do something about the noise of the modified exhaust systems. You dont need noise to perform. Wake up people.
TK HO
QUOTE (TimMckenna @ Oct 21 2009, 07:51 PM) *
The Maine Warden Service had a booth at the Snowmobile show in Augusta in October and the warden I talked to said that was going to be a very big priority this year as some of the biggest landowners have threatened to shut off the trails unless they do something about the noise of the modified exhaust systems. You dont need noise to perform. Wake up people.


right_on.gif thank you right_on.gif
billbrittain
QUOTE (TimMckenna @ Oct 21 2009, 07:51 PM) *
The Maine Warden Service had a booth at the Snowmobile show in Augusta in October and the warden I talked to said that was going to be a very big priority this year as some of the biggest landowners have threatened to shut off the trails unless they do something about the noise of the modified exhaust systems. You dont need noise to perform. Wake up people.

Thank you!!! This is a real problem. I live about 100 yards off of ITS89 just outside of Rangeley and the noise at night on weekends can get pretty bad. One of my neighbors owns about 1/2 mile of right of way on ITS89 and he is considering not allowing snowmobiles as the noise wakes up his wife. If he does this there will be a fairly serious problem getting from Rangely to Stratton/Eustis.

We rely on a lot of landowners for the trails we use in Maine. Don't be an @@$**** and screw it up for everyone because you need a noisy sled to offset other inadequicies. Besides, you don't gain squat in hp on a modern sled by hanging a can on it.
MaineSled
This will be a never ending argument amongst sledders BUT bottom line is tickets will be handed out and even more important TRAILS WILL BE CLOSED so this should really be a no brainer. Cans should be used to crap in, NOT hung on your sled
809screamer
All I have to say is all my sleds are 100% stock MUFFLERS now . I did not say tune pipes but STOCK MUFFLERS
MaineskandicV800
Several Town and Cities have noise ordiances on loud exhaust; ie Motorcycles, trucks, cars. The truth of the matter is Respect for other people and their rights. Your use of private land and 96% of land in the State of Maine is private; small landowner or large. The gift of the use of that land is a privledge for all; nopt a right. It has happened to areas in the past of trails being shut down due to lack of respect; loud exhausts, not ride on marked trails, and the outlandous damage to crops and property. I have to agree with several posts before me, "Wake UP Folks" or you will have to find riding areas in another State. Landowners are getting sick of the abuse of their land and the only way they can control it is to SHUT IT Down. huh.gif
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