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What are you seeing with your 1200?
Fuel mileage (US Gallon)
Less than 12 [ 4 ] ** [5.41%]
13-14 [ 13 ] ** [17.57%]
15-16 [ 41 ] ** [55.41%]
17-18 [ 10 ] ** [13.51%]
19-20 [ 4 ] ** [5.41%]
greater than 20 [ 2 ] ** [2.70%]
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markusvt
post Nov 11 2009, 10:46 AM
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Those 3 gallons end up being pretty important, if you ride with the Yamaha's, bring a hose.

QUOTE (XP123 @ Nov 10 2009, 06:16 PM) *
No these are dry weights. The 1200 holds 3 more gallons than the Nytro and that makes them look closer when comparing wet weights. Just don't fill your 1200 all the way.

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post Nov 11 2009, 10:47 AM
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Good data!

QUOTE (KnappAttack @ Nov 10 2009, 08:23 PM) *
NytroFX to XR1200 actual dry real measured weights, weighed on same scale same day, track length for track length, is 45 LBS. This is apples to apples, wet weight with both machines FULL of fuel, Ski-Doo is still 20 LBS lighter than Nytro even though Doo holds more fuel. Dry Weight of TNT XR1200 is within 1 pound of twin cylinder four-stroke Phazer which is lightest four-stroke, not bad for the XR1200!

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post Nov 11 2009, 12:02 PM
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QUOTE (freddy2 @ Nov 10 2009, 07:54 PM) *
The reason I asked is because isn't a 1200 x about 520 lbs and a Nytro about 542 lbs, both dry claimed weights (I even remember seeing a 522 lb claimed dry for the Nytro)? 1200 TNT is 499 so maybe you're comparing the TNT to the Nytro.....Or my Nytro weight I'm remember is off by a lot.


The actual listed dry weight of the TNT 1200 is 499 and the 1200 X is 509. The Nytro is listed somewhere in the 540-545 range. I read a weight comparo last season from I think Maximum sled and what they found was the 1200's were weighing about ten lbs lighter than listed and the Nytro about 20 lbs more than listed. The Yamahas are all listed way lighter than actual and most all the SkiDoos are listed very close or heavier than actual.
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post Nov 12 2009, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE (markusvt @ Nov 10 2009, 09:01 PM) *
Hard to ride them dry.


Of course but if both OEM's were being honest, the weight difference dry should give you the weight difference when wet, provided of course one OEM (Yamaha) didn't go and give a tiny 7 gallon fuel tank.
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post Nov 12 2009, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE (XP123 @ Nov 11 2009, 01:02 PM) *
The actual listed dry weight of the TNT 1200 is 499 and the 1200 X is 509. The Nytro is listed somewhere in the 540-545 range. I read a weight comparo last season from I think Maximum sled and what they found was the 1200's were weighing about ten lbs lighter than listed and the Nytro about 20 lbs more than listed. The Yamahas are all listed way lighter than actual and most all the SkiDoos are listed very close or heavier than actual.


Thanks - the 520 number must have been a Renegade 1200. Anyway, yes depending on 1200 model, that's indeed 30-45 lbs difference, IF both are honest dry weights.

Interesting info from Max Sled. I did hear something like that before, that Doo was coming in lighter than claimed, and Yamaha significantly heavier (shame). Then we're talking 489 TNT and 499 X vs a 560-565 Nytro, so from 60-75 lbs more for a Nytro in the real world. Wow. I wonder where all that extra weight comes from? Thicker aluminum in tunnel etc.? Beefier than necessary bulkhead/frame? Skidframe? Likely an accumulation of all those things, as I would think the 1050 motor can't be heavier than the 1170.
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post Nov 12 2009, 11:22 AM
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QUOTE (KnappAttack @ Nov 10 2009, 09:23 PM) *
NytroFX to XR1200 actual dry real measured weights, weighed on same scale same day, track length for track length, is 45 LBS. This is apples to apples, wet weight with both machines FULL of fuel, Ski-Doo is still 20 LBS lighter than Nytro even though Doo holds more fuel. Dry Weight of TNT XR1200 is within 1 pound of twin cylinder four-stroke Phazer which is lightest four-stroke, not bad for the XR1200!


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